[BUG] Proof found - Viper Sting MUST break Freezing Trap

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[BUG] Proof found - Viper Sting MUST break Freezing Trap

Postby hammered » Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:59 pm

Can anyone prove that viper sting did not break traps in vanilla?

I am just curious as to how every other vanilla server changed that so it breaks traps and where is the proof that it didn't.
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Re: A little question

Postby Minx » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:13 pm

Here are 2 different voices from the past in the same thread but the one is claiming he tested it. It's TBC too.

http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?fo ... 2255245630
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Re: A little question

Postby hammered » Thu Jun 02, 2016 6:22 pm

Well, if it got nerfed in TBC (btw according to Stay's memories [Alliance hunter] it started breaking Freezing trap in ZG patch) then we should notify all our fellow vanilla servers that they fixed a wrong thing, huh? :D

Btw, to use Zardian's way of proving stuff (no hate intended, just an example) by showing videos that you can see people not using the observed action (like the lack of videos that showcase stacking of seals ON FIRST GLANCE), i've gone through almost all hunter pvp videos from back in vanilla. R13s not using viper sting - freezing trap is just weird. But yea, I guess people were dumb back then.
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Re: A little question

Postby Zardian » Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:56 pm

my "way of proving stuff" does not consist of saying "cant find in these vids", anything i report i find provably vanilla video evidence or official sources for. I merely stated that you ought to try to look for proof regarding such a glaringly nonsensical mechanic in the hopes that failing to find it would convince you.

as for freezing viper my first gut instinct says it probably shouldnt break but lets go look a bit..
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Re: A little question

Postby Jimjam » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:13 pm

This is a purely literal interpretation:

Viper Sting causes no damage. Freezing Trap requires damage to be broken. There is no mention of a change in the patch notes for ZG patch (1.7), so it would have been a stealth fix or someone's memory is a bit off.

Sources:
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?spell=14280 (Viper)
http://db.vanillagaming.org/?spell=27753 (Freezing)
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_1.7.0 (ZG patch)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/wow- ... blood-god/ (contains a copy-pasta of the blue post from WoW forums)

Yes I know these are not 'official' blizzard posts, but it's a replication of the very same... so, my guess is it shouldn't break freezing traps.
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Re: A little question

Postby Branch » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:17 pm

You could look for videos to see if it breaks poly, which I don't think it did, because that could help to show the damage-breaks-trap effect that both CCs share is also effected by mana-draining.
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Re: A little question

Postby Zardian » Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:21 pm

A little bit of going through videos:
https://youtu.be/XgFHoXedgSc?t=906
http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=19903

doop de doop, i get that its a pain in the goddamn arse to look through videos properly but the results are baller.
Youtube has a metric shitton of obscure unknown pvp videos with low views, you can crossreference them to wcm to make sure theyre retail prebc. Its amazing how much material you can find for things when you really go a few pages deep.
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Re: A little question

Postby Minx » Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:05 pm

How is it working for warlocks? Usualy locks dot there targets, but can a lock drain mana from a traped or sheeped target without breaking it?
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Re: A little question

Postby Zardian » Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:12 pm

assuming it deals no damage yes, i would wager so
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Re: A little question

Postby Zaakir » Fri Jun 03, 2016 6:07 pm

Yes warlock can mana drain through CC like that.

Seduce --> mana drain is infuriating.

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