Gouge, The Rebirth, and You

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Gouge, The Rebirth, and You

Postby Series » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:12 am

Hello fellow Rogues & Players,

Gouge is something fundamental to our class that we all use and require in our rotations in both PvP and PvE. It's used to disorient/incapacitate targets while our energy regenerates. It's an essential ability for dagger rogues in both PvP and PvE to get behind our targets. Many rogues spec into Improved Gouge (3/3) which increases the incapacitate effect by a total of 1.5 seconds.

Recently on The Rebirth, Gouge has been completely countered by a couple of abilities which shouldn't effect the incapacitate: namely Power Word: Shield, Ice Barrier, and Mana Shield. If a priest or mage has these abilities active, gouge becomes useless; obsolete; as the incapacitate effect is "Absorbed". When these abilities are active, the incapacitate is completely blocked, the target is left free to continue moving, and 45 energy is spent for a measly 75 damage (scales with AP). To put things in perspective, Backstab costs 60 energy and can critical for upwards of 1000. Backstab without gouge, though, is (as Manatee would say) tea without biscuits.

I made the video below showcasing Gouge versus Mage shields. I noticed that Bronze Bombs (Engineering 140) worked to the full effect when Mana Shield is active. Looking at the combat log, the message "Onizuka is afflicted by Gouge" does not appear when the shields were up, maybe this clue can help when examining the code.

Gouge versus Mana Shield & Ice Barrier: https://youtu.be/t--RCKbQ4Zs

Proof #1 of Gouge working through shields: https://youtu.be/az8V1fg9WgY?t=15m35s

Proof #2 of Gouge working through shields: https://youtu.be/az8V1fg9WgY?t=2m27s

Proof #3 of Gouge working through shields: https://youtu.be/az8V1fg9WgY?t=4m20s

Proof #4 of Gouge working through shields working on Nost Mage POV (vanish also working): https://youtu.be/I_JHWPYJ9DI?t=16m12s

Proof #5 of Scatter Shot working through shields (Hunters currently have the same problem with scatter shot as rogues do with gouge. I posted this on ECG's thread as well): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4bgggK ... e&t=17m56s


The Rebirth Staff are great, and hopefully this post sheds some light on the issue. I hope that we can get this Absorb bug fixed soon - I believe Hunters are running into the same problem with scatter shot. With the upcoming PvP Tournament, I feel like I'm at a disadvantage and I feel discouraged to join up
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Re: Gouge, The Rebirth, and You

Postby Ecg1 » Sat Jul 18, 2015 5:40 pm

Hopefully between the development of AQ and the attacks on the website some of these fundamental issues will get attention. New content and advertising are great but current content and mechanics working correctly are arguably even better.
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Re: Gouge, The Rebirth, and You

Postby andkem » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:24 pm

We are aware of the issues with damage absorbing shields and different abilites/effects getting interrupted. We also know exactly what introduced the bug and it will be addressed.

We are however currently under a quite heavy work-load at the moment so I can sadly not promise a quick fix. I am however personally aiming to have a fix for it in the next patch.
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Re: Gouge, The Rebirth, and You

Postby Series » Sat Jul 18, 2015 6:49 pm

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Re: Gouge, The Rebirth, and You

Postby Photo » Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:41 pm

Very much looking forward to the next patch :) thx for the hard work guys, wouldn't play anywhere else because of your efforts.
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