Judgements of Whatever stacking on different ranks. omagad nerf em but dunt du research cuz im so sure thats so op as F

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Judgements of Whatever stacking on different ranks. omagad nerf em but dunt du research cuz im so sure thats so op as F

Postby hammered » Fri May 06, 2016 12:37 pm

sorry to bust your shiny dreambubbles about what is blizzlike and what not, but stop nerfing stuff you have no idea about.

judgements of different ranks of seals were stackable on vanilla and that nerf should be removed. soz.

evidence: http://wow.allakhazam.com/forum.html?fo ... 7594799940 (From Oct. 09 2005):
"Multiple paladins can stack different ranks of the judgements on the same mob. The last time my raid group killed Ragnaros we didn't have enough priests to do AoE heals on the rogues, so the three paladins in the melee groups coordinated different ranks of Judgement of Light on him, and the rogues and dps warriors ended up healing themselves a lot. "

a few days later someone says it was "reportedly" nerfed, but i guess it was not.


http://paladin-guide.blogspot.bg/2005/1 ... ments.html as well


http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Patch_2.4.0

Judgement of the Crusader: It is no longer possible to have icons for two different ranks of Judgment of the Crusader appear at the same time when judged by multiple Paladins.

nerf'd in patch 2.4.0?


i also remember seeing a video dating back to 2006 where at one point palies multi-judge seals - too bad i didn't save it for reference.

http://paladinsucks.blogspot.bg/2005_08_01_archive.html - before 1.8.0 tho.


So, if every bug post here requires evidence to be relevant - what data/evidence did You use when You nerfed the Seal stacking, if I may ask? :)
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Re: Judgements of Whatever stacking on different ranks. omagad nerf em but dunt du research cuz im so sure thats so op a

Postby bikeflexxer » Fri May 06, 2016 1:39 pm

i didnt make an officially post about this, but yes, it was possible to stack multiple judgement stacks in vanilla.

I really dont understand why they changed it to 1 of each, but it made me reroll from pala since the dps wasnt really worth it anymore. Hope GMS will look this over and undo this fault.
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Re: Judgements of Whatever stacking on different ranks. omagad nerf em but dunt du research cuz im so sure thats so op a

Postby Zardian » Fri May 06, 2016 1:53 pm

good thing we have all these vanilla raid videos where we surely would see multiple judgements of the same type stacked like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LDXp97ES30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf4RSVoRpDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb3H7G3zvWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTsHKW0CYoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFwQUbYsF3A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbRepaIZOAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdJ-AajxvE

..oh wait.. we dont?

youtube search wow 2006 raid
find one post 1.8 that has stacking judgements and ezprove.
If you cant do that you gotta start asking yourself if youre quite so sure about it

most likely it did work pre 1.8 and was changed without documentation in the pnotes, who knows tho, i havent really looked into paladin mechanics.
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Re: Judgements of Whatever stacking on different ranks. omagad nerf em but dunt du research cuz im so sure thats so op a

Postby hammered » Fri May 06, 2016 3:02 pm

The lack of video documentating double stacked judgements You couldn't find is sufficient enough proof that it didn't exist? :D Okay.

Btw, how do you even tell what the debuff slots are in 240p? You really have a keen eye, man. lol.

And also, as I said, You can find less prove it didn't exist than me finding proove about the opposite so don't "ezproove" on me.
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Re: Judgements of Whatever stacking on different ranks. omagad nerf em but dunt du research cuz im so sure thats so op a

Postby Zardian » Fri May 06, 2016 3:13 pm

I never claimed its conclusive evidence, i dont know what proof was originally used for the patch.
Im merely stating theres an abundance of available material.
the videos i linked are only a tiny fraction from the first few pages on youtube, theres a lot more.
the 240p video is indeed pure garbage, i can agree on that.

Additionally, the blogpost youve referenced as evidence both predates the patch it ~may have been fixed~ and stated to be specific:
Multiple paladins can activate different judgements of this kind on the same target.
the post itself emphasized the word different, its up to the reader wether you take it to mean different ranks or different effect debuffs (mana/heal/holydmg)

heres the first specificly paladin dps video from naxx i could find, still no multiple crusaders:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXNWvytYbyo
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